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One of the most poorly kept secrets and biggest “surprise” ever has been announced. The iPad is coming to an Apple store near you. It is like a giant iPod touch, but it has a 9.7-inch screen, Apples own 1 ghz Apple A4 CPU, Bluetooth, wifi, 3G in the bigger models, up to 10 hours of battery life and varying sizes of storage from 16 to 64 GB. Steve Jobs gave a demonstration by showing off the OS, using Safari to surf the web and showing off its features just like how users use an iPhone or iPod touch. He has also said "all of us use laptops and smartphones now. The question has arisen lately - is there room for a third category of device in the middle, something between the laptop and the smartphone? Netbooks aren’t better at anything, they’re just cheaper.” If you click here, you can see how it looks in Steve Jobs hands. Here is another link to see some photos, all like a montage with bad music. The iPad is priced at $US499 ($554) for 16GB, $US599 ($665) for 32GB, and $US899 ($999) for 64GB. It will also ship out in 2-3 months.
I actually like it except for some issues/questions:
how can I put it on my lap if I want to use it like a laptop?
why can I only run one app at a time?
I want flash!
Will it try to copulate with my eeepc to make other devices?
will it help me pick up chicks?
At this stage my asus eeepc (one of the first) almost has more cpu power (100 mhz off, drats) but for sexiness, it is win. If it can be refined more to say run more apps at one time and be more open, it would sell more. I call divs on iPadKeyboard.
At some point I wouldn't mind to see Apple come out with something original in concept, but I guess they're going to keep re-inventing the wheel for a long while.
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I am already hearing an outcry over the single function limitation. tbh I do find it strange they allow such a thing in this period when we are pushing into i7s! Meaning multi-tasking is on demand.
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i think you people are missing the idea of the tablet
this is not a pc type tablet. Its not purposed for people looking for a small portable alternative to their laptops.
Like it says in the OP, theres laptops and smartphones, surely theres something in between.
It excites at the limitless possibilities than can come from this once (IF) it is jailbroken. If it does happen, this thing will be pure sex.
Pits.
It supports flash content.
Its not a laptop, so why use it like one.
You can run multiple programs at once on a jailbroken iphone.
Also once you use an iphone, youll notice the single function is no big deal at all and will never come in between what your doing.
i think you people are missing the idea of the tablet
this is not a pc type tablet. Its not purposed for people looking for a small portable alternative to their laptops.
Like it says in the OP, theres laptops and smartphones, surely theres something in between.
It excites at the limitless possibilities than can come from this once (IF) it is jailbroken. If it does happen, this thing will be pure sex.
Pits.
It supports flash content.
Its not a laptop, so why use it like one.
You can run multiple programs at once on a jailbroken iphone.
Also once you use an iphone, youll notice the single function is no big deal at all and will never come in between what your doing.
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• The browser: The browser is essential an upscaled version of Safari Mobile, with a familiar, finger-friendly title bar and not much else. It rotates by command of the accelerometer. From the looks of it, it doesn't have Flash support, but we'll have to confirm. UPDATE: Yup, none at all. You can get away with that kind of thing on the iPhone, sort of, but on a 10-inch tablet it's a glaring omission.
it could replace a laptop, if the flash/single functionality was fixed. Not sure if you can install your own things freely and if it needs jailbreaking, may take a while. I may have to keep an eye out for the HP offering, the Microsoft one will probably suck.
... Like it says in the OP, theres laptops and smartphones, surely theres something in between. ...
Ever heard of a Netbook? Again, they're just reinventing the wheel. Macintosh was just a remade PC with a different name. iPod was just a remade MP3 player, with a different name. Now it's a fairly bog-standard PMP that's made to look better than other things on the market. The iPhone was their idea of making an Apple phone, but decided to use the oft-forgotten technology that is touchscreen. The Nintendo DS was probably the biggest thing to introduce touchscreen, and Apple came out with a touchscreen phone a few years later and brands it revolutionary.
Now, there's the iPad. I can't imagine what they were thinking when they started developing this.
"Hey! I know! Let's make a netbook sort of thing!"
"Needs something special and new, though.."
"Hmm. No! It needs touchscreen! Let's make it like a giant iPhone that doesn't work as a phone!"
"Fantastic!"
Ever heard of a Netbook? Again, they're just reinventing the wheel. Macintosh was just a remade PC with a different name. iPod was just a remade MP3 player, with a different name. Now it's a fairly bog-standard PMP that's made to look better than other things on the market. The iPhone was their idea of making an Apple phone, but decided to use the oft-forgotten technology that is touchscreen. The Nintendo DS was probably the biggest thing to introduce touchscreen, and Apple came out with a touchscreen phone a few years later and brands it revolutionary.
Now, there's the iPad. I can't imagine what they were thinking when they started developing this.
"Hey! I know! Let's make a netbook sort of thing!"
"Needs something special and new, though.."
"Hmm. No! It needs touchscreen! Let's make it like a giant iPhone that doesn't work as a phone!"
"Fantastic!"
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I don't think they're all that swish. Like, I'm an apple fan...I think they're brilliant at what they do...
But, it's nothing new. and it isn't any better than the iPhone. Also, People haven't considered the usuability of this device!
What is it designed to do? and How is it making my life easier?
I can't find any answer to either of these questions.
Okay, so, I'm sitting on a train in the city. I want to listen to a song. I'll just sit it in my lap (since it doesn't fit anywhere else) and listen.
Like, it's not making life, in that sense, any easier.
Okay, I'm sitting on the train in the city. I want to read an email. Bam...I'll pull out my iPad awkwardly and try and hold a 10" in one hand...while using the other hand to navigate through my emails while trying to hide them from peering eyes.
Okay, it seems like my scenarios aren't giving it a chance...like, they are 'iPhone' environments. This is not an iPhone. But, why the hell else would we use it? It's meant to be a semi-netbook and semi-iPhone! Yet, it still fails as a netbook!
How could anyone possibly utilise 8gb of space? Okay...so, it goes up to 64gb! But, chuck about 20 movies...upload your whole itunes (Mine exceeds 30gb)...a few high-res photos... hundreds of applications. Where's the left over space?
So, in the end... my opinion on this device.
It is a toy. Shiny and glossy and cool as...but, it is a toy. What purpose does it have?
netbooks are rubbish, any half knowledgeable pc user would know.
your arguement is void.
"I don't like them. Your argument is invalid."
For browsing the web, playing flash games or watching Youtube and the like, they do just fine. Does a touchscreen really make something that much better?
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... What purpose does it have?
I couldn't agree more. It's just a reissue of the netbook, jumbled in with an iPhone. It's hardly revolutionary in any way, but people will still buy them for some reason. Netbooks are cheaper, more convenient and in most cases, faster.
This has been the same argument with every Apple product released. Like that image stressed:
"... You really think people will pay money for that?"
"A ****load of it son. There are enough dumb****s out there that are attracted to looks rather than actual performance."
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"I don't like them. Your argument is invalid."
For browsing the web, playing flash games or watching Youtube and the like, they do just fine. Does a touchscreen really make something that much better?
its not about liking it or disliking buddy.
net books are slow useless pieces of crap.
fortunately i work in retail and know first hand experience of almost every net book on the market, and they are just as **** as each other.
customers don't want it, retailers don't want to sell it.
its not about liking it or disliking buddy.
net books are slow useless pieces of crap.
fortunately i work in retail and know first hand experience of almost every net book on the market, and they are just as **** as each other.
customers don't want it, retailers don't want to sell it.
In contrast to what? If you were to put a netbook's specs next to that of say, your computer, it would be a slow, useless piece of crap. But they come in handy for their portability. My father has an Asus eee PC and it does perfectly well for general web browsing, Facebook, Youtube, etc.
So tell me, why will the iPad be a viable alternative to netbooks?
Asus eee PC: ~$449 (From ShopBot)
Apple iPad: ~$499 - ~$829 (Source)
What makes it worth the extra money? I'll compare the specs of an Asus eee PC with the worst iPad, because the price range is closest.
Asus eee PC (1005HA - ~$449):
Windows XP / GNU Linux
Intel Atom N280/N270 (~1.6GHZ)
160GB storage
1GB RAM (DDR2)
10.5 hour battery life Source
Apple iPad (8GB Version - ~$499):
iPhone OS
1 GHz Apple A4 CPU
8GB storage
[Can't find specs for RAM]
10 hour battery life Source
So why would one want to pay $50 more for a system that has a slower CPU, has a 20th of the storage capacity and a shorter battery life? Is the ability to awkwardly and haphazardly swish your hand around on the screen really worth all the sacrifices? What makes it worth buying over the cheaper and more powerful alternative?
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there is no 8gb mate
make sure you read probably before you give an IT salesman price comparisons.
oh and just to add
it seems like...people still don't get it.
It is not a pc or a netbook.
its like comparing......well no matter what i say it doesn't seem like you will be able to comprehend it so ill give ya some more time to think about it.
there is no 8gb mate
make sure you read probably before you give an IT salesman price comparisons.
oh and just to add
it seems like...people still don't get it.
It is not a pc or a netbook.
its like comparing......well no matter what i say it doesn't seem like you will be able to comprehend it so ill give ya some more time to think about it.
I coulda sworn Wikipedia said.. Ah well. A 10th the storage capacity.
I also don't think that just because you work in sales means that you're qualified to not at least provide a decent reason.
It pretty damn well IS directed at the netbook market, might want to read this.
Everything in that list is stuff that a netbook was made to do. The iPad is nothing more than a netbook that's been slowed down, merged with an iPhone and made more expensive. I think maybe what you're trying to cite is aesthetic appeal, but that means ****-all when put next to performance. The iPad does nothing a netbook can't, with the exception of being able to poke the hell out of the screen.
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I coulda sworn Wikipedia said.. Ah well. A 10th the storage capacity.
I also don't think that just because you work in sales means that you're qualified to not at least provide a decent reason.
It pretty damn well IS directed at the netbook market, might want to read this.
Everything in that list is stuff that a netbook was made to do. The iPad is nothing more than a netbook that's been slowed down, merged with an iPhone and made more expensive. I think maybe what you're trying to cite is aesthetic appeal, but that means ****-all when put next to performance. The iPad does nothing a netbook can't, with the exception of being able to poke the hell out of the screen.
i believe it does considering the amount iv had to deal with and knowing first hand experience how many consumers bring them back or simply aren't happy with what they've got, so ye i do think it does qualify enough. Not to mention the amount of limitations and variances in the netbook market make them all overall crap.
Watch the video mate, there's even a diagram just to make it that much more clear.
i believe it does considering the amount iv had to deal with and knowing first hand experience how many consumers bring them back or simply aren't happy with what they've got, so ye i do think it does qualify enough. Not to mention the amount of limitations and variances in the netbook market make them all overall crap.
Watch the video mate, there's even a diagram just to make it that much more clear.
smartphones | ipad | netbooks
Gah, you're not getting anywhere.
I don't see why iPad's are even considered anything special. I want to know why it's not considered a netbook alternative. You're completely dodging my point. If I went out and got a job at McDonalds and had to listen to angry customers because they got the wrong burger or something it wouldn't instantly make me qualified to dodge a debate over whether having pickles in cheeseburgers is necessary or not.
You're certainly giving of the implication now that you have no idea what you're talking about. I want to know why the iPad is such a big deal. What new it's bringing to the market, beyond a giant iPod Touch. You're defending it, you obviously hold it in some kind of high regard. Explain. Please.
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Re: Apple brings out the iPad
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Not to mention the amount of limitations and variances in the netbook market make them all overall crap.
Limitations of the iPad FAR outweigh the limitations of a netbook. You can run programs on a netbook. An iPad is full of applications that, well, quite honestly, are utter crap. Yes..they are innovative and intuitive! But, as far as I'm concerned...they're just a big toy.
Well i HATE anything MAC, the Ipod, Iphone, yeah they work great but you NEED to use that crap program called Itunes and you cant just send files to it.
If you have a typical MP3 player you can put anything on it and even use it as a storage device, you are VERY limited with anything APPLE out of the box and you need to pay for the good stuff or you need to crack it.
In saying that for video and music on a Ipod touch is great and you get alot of storage but there really isnt any competitors to out do the Ipod touch or Iphone.
I bought an ipod touch about 2-3 months ago, and the only things I've paid for is the music/apps that I buy, so I'm not sure why you 'need to crack it'. Yes you can't drag and drop files on it, but that's why I've got a portable hard drive.
Oh and I haven't had any problems with 'that crap program called itunes' so I guess I must be lucky
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I bought an ipod touch about 2-3 months ago, and the only things I've paid for is the music/apps that I buy, so I'm not sure why you 'need to crack it'. Yes you can't drag and drop files on it, but that's why I've got a portable hard drive.
Oh and I haven't had any problems with 'that crap program called itunes' so I guess I must be lucky
I'd go ION just to make the iPad seem that much worse.
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In contrast to what? If you were to put a netbook's specs next to that of say, your computer, it would be a slow, useless piece of crap. But they come in handy for their portability. My father has an Asus eee PC and it does perfectly well for general web browsing, Facebook, Youtube, etc.
So tell me, why will the iPad be a viable alternative to netbooks?
Asus eee PC: ~$449 (From ShopBot)
Apple iPad: ~$499 - ~$829 (Source)
What makes it worth the extra money? I'll compare the specs of an Asus eee PC with the worst iPad, because the price range is closest.
Asus eee PC (1005HA - ~$449):
Windows XP / GNU Linux
Intel Atom N280/N270 (~1.6GHZ)
160GB storage
1GB RAM (DDR2)
10.5 hour battery life Source
Apple iPad (8GB Version - ~$499):
iPhone OS
1 GHz Apple A4 CPU
8GB storage
[Can't find specs for RAM]
10 hour battery life Source
So why would one want to pay $50 more for a system that has a slower CPU, has a 20th of the storage capacity and a shorter battery life? Is the ability to awkwardly and haphazardly swish your hand around on the screen really worth all the sacrifices? What makes it worth buying over the cheaper and more powerful alternative?
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