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Old 17-09-2009, 07:05 PM   #1
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Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

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Left 4 Dead 2 refused classification in Australia

By Andrew Ramadge, Technology Reporter

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September 17, 2009 12:35pm

Left 4 Dead 2
Banned ... multiplayer action game Left 4 Dead 2 has been refused classification in Australia / Valve

* Game banned from sale in Australia
* Hugely disappointing, says a retailer

THE sequel to a popular video game has been banned in Australia after failing to receive a rating of MA15+.

Left 4 Dead 2 was refused classification by the Classifications Board this week, meaning it will be banned from sale.

In its report the board said the game, due to be released in November, contained "realistic, frenetic and unrelenting violence".

"The game contains violence that is high in impact and is therefore unsuitable for persons under 18 years to play," the report said.
LET THE RAGERZORS BEGIN! I'm fricking rank about this. Considering L4D was actually pretty tame..
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Old 17-09-2009, 08:57 PM   #2
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

Man some worrying trends are starting to occur in Australia, This along with the proposed internet censorship, how much will the Government block before we become China?
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Old 17-09-2009, 09:54 PM   #3
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

im sick of it... the government has no idea i should end here incase... ye
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Old 17-09-2009, 09:56 PM   #4
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

This is beginning to get ridiculous. Who the hell hired these people to choose what is safe or not anyway?
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Old 17-09-2009, 10:02 PM   #5
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

wonder why MW2 isnt banned.. mw2 has stabbing, killing, terrorist acts... why isnt it banned?

or are new age terrorists planning some zombie take over or something?
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Old 17-09-2009, 10:21 PM   #6
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

unfortunate
but yet it valve released this as dlc like they said they would it wouldnt get banned :/
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Old 18-09-2009, 12:27 AM   #7
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

Here is the official report for those who are interested
http://www.news.com.au/files/left%20...n%20report.pdf

lets start an internet petition!!...... those always work right? :P
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Old 18-09-2009, 06:51 AM   #8
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pirating here we come!
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Old 18-09-2009, 08:51 AM   #9
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

At the risk of being linched: I'm with the guys who made the decision. What the problem is at the moment is the law that doesn't include a provision for R18+, not the fact that these guys think the game fits into a particular criteria, and hence achieves a particular rating.

Nahtzee, the reason why they banned this is quote "The game contains realistic, frenetic and unrelenting violence which is infliceted upon "The Infected" who are living human beings ... The interactive nature of the game increases the overall impact of the frequent and intense depictions of violence"

Fair enough I say, if it's anything like L4D , then the whole point of the game is realistic, frenetic, unrelenting violence toward "human" characters!
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Old 18-09-2009, 11:43 AM   #10
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

i RAGED when i found out about this this is a contentious issue for me (censorship).
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Old 18-09-2009, 11:44 AM   #11
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

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pirating here we come!
who will host servers? how big would the online community be?

it will be dodgy connections and small numbers of people.
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Old 18-09-2009, 01:39 PM   #12
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

There are private servers that are managing to sustain larger numbers of players for MMOs such as World of Warcraft. With a bit of wit, hard work and something like hamachi I am sure it can work
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Old 18-09-2009, 03:01 PM   #13
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who will host servers? how big would the online community be?

it will be dodgy connections and small numbers of people.
dude if pirating has taught people anything its it will always find a way.

For a game as BIG as L4D for it to be banned in Australia, is just idiotic. And the reason why there is no R rating for games is because the same council who rate these games voted for not to have one. So it is directly the board of classifications causing.

Once again Australia shows us what a bunch of idiots it is being run by.
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Old 18-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #14
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

how can a game like gta4 then be allowed a classifaction
u can kill cops, run down pedestrians, go on shooting sprees,
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Old 18-09-2009, 03:29 PM   #15
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yes but in gta the people dont have a rabies like virus, that's the difference lol

we always have the option of buying online via ebay/amazon.com remember
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Old 18-09-2009, 05:02 PM   #16
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

Remy i see what you mean, but there is obviously an error in the rating system that needs to be addressed then.
People 18 and over should be able to have access to games like this, if there is no rating system for these titles deemed 18+ then there needs to be an 18+ rating available for games or the rating system needs to be corrected.
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Old 18-09-2009, 05:20 PM   #17
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Viva La Revolución!

Get involved people..stuff like this will never change unless people effect change..

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Old 18-09-2009, 06:13 PM   #18
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Old 18-09-2009, 08:28 PM   #19
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LoL these people are *** weird, its as easy as if they bring in a 18+ clasification. My question is why dont they? Or is it a part of the big plan you can only do what we tell you. China here we go! I knew germany should have won the war. Communist country we will become.
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Old 18-09-2009, 09:07 PM   #20
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

Maybe I'm wrong, but if it's banned here then it's not licensed here, right? And if it's not licensed here then it's not illegal to download pirated versions.
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but will i be stopped from dl it from steam ?? or is this just for store sales??
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Old 18-09-2009, 11:18 PM   #22
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

i can put my money on not being able to buy it off steam either, steam can zone restrict games.

so yeh, no release AT ALL throughout Aus.
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Old 19-09-2009, 02:36 AM   #23
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LoL these people are *** weird, its as easy as if they bring in a 18+ clasification. My question is why dont they? Or is it a part of the big plan you can only do what we tell you. China here we go! I knew germany should have won the war. Communist country we will become.
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I recently went into EB and I saw Left 4 Dead 2 on the 'Coming soon' shelf, looks like EB will have to disappoint as well as all the other retailers.

But hey, it should be on steam so it's all good, plus the dvd/retail version of Left 4 Dead doesn't work with steam versions, so it should be fine.
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Old 19-09-2009, 01:27 PM   #24
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

It is getting frustrating, especially considering so few items used to be refused classification in this company. Plus the OFLC didn't hire me when I applied for a job with them. And I want to play Silent Hill Homecoming WITH scenes of torture...
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Old 20-09-2009, 07:53 PM   #25
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

Well everyone blame The Governor-General of SA, he is the only one who is stpooind Australia to having R18+ games.

Apparently all states and territories have to vote for 18+ and if only one doesnt then it gets canned and he is the only one against it.

So send all your hate mail to him.

Just import the game or off ebay.

The worst part is seeing if we are allowed in Australia to host the actual game, someone needs to look into it.
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Old 20-09-2009, 08:48 PM   #26
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Just import the game or off ebay.
This is not going to happen. I mean, yeah, people will do it.

But, the OVERWHELMING demand for this game is insane. There will be a ridiculous amount of people going on ebay and trying to get a copy.

There is no flipping way that Valve will skip Australia, the market is MASSIVE! They will probably give us a tamer version (Which, I will buy, just because I want the game).

In saying this, I wonder how 'inter-country' games will go, considering there are an amount of people with a real version and a number of people with a censored one. They won't be allowed in the same server together?

ALL in all. Valve will give us the game. Doing it as a big 'underground' movement and skipping legal ways of buying it will result in punishment. The government isn't stupid enough to allow us to do that (surprisly not stupid enough).
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well if its anything like the german version of tf2 then maybe the infected will explode into streemers and cogs and rubber ducks.
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Re: Left 4 Dead 2 :- ANOTHER GAME BANNED IN AUSTRALIA

lol, i saw that hugo ad today, so for some lol's i sent in

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Hugo knows L4D2 was banned due to the excessive violence - specially due to the decapitations, limb dismemberment from melee weapons! It'll be toned down!
the bold bit is most important, these people at Hugo, obviously Google for the answer and reply back, because it took them a good 20 minutes to reply lol, so the answer on how it's getting toned down is out there somewhere on the internets!!
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This makes me mad as hell. The fact people over 18 are told what they can and can't play is ridiculous. The government was supposed to review the whole ridiculous games classification situation six months ago and in the end didn't bother. This will create a massive fan backlash. One of the biggest game developers in the world are unable to release a sequel to one of the games of the year due to a classification system that doesn't go beyond MA15. What an absolute joke. You can bet the next issue of PCPP will have a write up on this and tell us who in govenrment to write to and tell them what we think of this.
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I cannot BELIEVE that Australia is doing this its so stupid....
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